Hungarian Historical Phonology loll

loll 'Vorderschinken; torkospecsenye (a disznó torkán, az álltól a két első lábig terjedő széles, lapos hús); Kinn- und Halsfleisch des Schweines'

First attestation/Old Hungarian data

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Important dialectal forms

The word only appears in dialects.

loll: lolja

lolu: lolva

Uralic/Ugric/Pre-Hungarian reconstruction

Disputed:

UEW: PUg ? *lȣlkɜ 'some kind of body part (leg, hand, paw); irgendein Glied (Fuß, Hand, Pfote, Tatze)'

Status of the Ugric etymology

Implausible

Loan etymology

None suggested

Cognates suggested in earlier research

UEW:

Khanty: East (V) ḷaγəḷ 'die flache Hand', South (DT) laχəl 'Pfote; Tatze, Handteller (des Menschen)'

Mansi: South (TJ) lɛ̮jəl, East (KU) lāl (lajl-), West (P) lē̮l (lajl-), North (So) lāγəl 'Fuß'

Commentary

The Ugric etymology, considered uncertain in the UEW, is irregular: UEW's reconstruction of "ȣ" (any vowel) in the first syllable shows that the vowel-reconstruction is unclear, and Aikio (manuscript) has also stated that the etymology is irregular.

Even though the Khanty and Mansi words probably belong together somehow, it is less clear whether the Hungarian dialectal loll is somehow connected. The meaning of the Hungarian word is quite specific, which could point to a loan: as it is known that there is at least one Mansi loan in Hungarian (tolvaj 'thief', see Helimski 1982), we could assume also that loll is borrowed from Mansi, but the phonological details are quite unclear. It is also possible that the Hungarian word is of completely other origin.

The Khanty and Mansi words could be borrowed from some substrate language: names for many animals in Ugric and Ob-Ugric are of unclear origin, and some of them could be substrate words. However, more research is needed.

Conclusion

The Ugric etymology should be rejected but at least the Khanty and Mansi words are probably somehow connected (perhaps as loans); the origin of Hungarian loll remains uncertain, but a loan from Ob-Ugric (Mansi?) might be possible.

References

UEW s.v. lȣlkɜ: ? PUg Uralonet